Trump Rally Troubles: Who provoked whom?

Trump Rally Troubles: Who provoked whom?

LOUISVILLE, KY (WAVE) - Donald Trump's Super Tuesday stop at the Kentucky International Convention Center brought so much of an exercise of free speech outside that Metro officers had to threaten arrests to persuade protesters to stop blocking Jefferson Street.

Inside, the confrontations got so up close and personal that Trump took to the microphone four times to order out those he considered "disruptors."

"Look at these people, get 'em out of here," Trump exhorted. "Out, out, out!"

WAVE 3 News cameras showed one supporter of Democratic candidate Bernie Sanders appear to try to lock his legs as a Trump supporter grabbed his T-shirt for leverage while marching him through the crowd.

But a confrontation between a Korean War veteran and a young woman identified as University of Louisville student Shiya Nwanguma has sparked the most commentary after news footage and cell phone videos got passed around social media.

"Get out of here," the veteran tells Nwanguma in a 20-second video posted on Facebook. "Nobody wants you here."

The video provides no context as to what may have transpired prior to the exchange. But rally attendee Matthew-John Heimbach offered his spin on 
tradyouth.org, the web site for the Traditionalist Youth Network, a white nationalist political movement he co-founded in Indiana in 2013.

"Taken out of context, the elderly veteran, several others and I appear to be roughing up the woman because she is black," Heimbach wrote. "But she had been pushing, barking and screaming at the attendees for the better part of an hour."

Heimbach has not responded to WAVE 3 News emails or telephone calls. Nwanguma told WAVE 3 News that she has retained counsel, but filed no criminal complaint. She declined a request for an on-camera interview.

Nwanguma's confrontation with Heimbach and the veteran lasted little more than a minute. News footage and cellphone videos show her smiling. Heimbach is heard raising his voice as he appears to push her through the crowd.

Trump kept to his talking points through it all.  "What do you think of waterboarding?" he asked, referring to an interrogation technique once used on suspected terrorists detained at Guantanamo Bay. "And I said, 'It's absolutely fine.'"

Trump appeared to express a bit of frustration after the third public disruption.

"If I say, 'Don't hurt 'em,' then the press says, 'Well, Trump isn't as tough as he used to be,''" Trump said. "Can you believe that? So, you can't win. Get 'em out of here!"

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